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Topic: In the closet but out

I have a question. Is it possible for a person to be, so called " in the closet " but out? This is confusing to me. I've been in this relationship for about 8 years now and that's how they act. Well, that's the only way I can describe it.

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I have recently experience this feeling.... I have been out my whole life.  Family and most true friends know about me.  however, i relocated to an area to be close to my girlfirend who is not out and i have been feeling like I'm in the closet.  This has not been a good feeling to me.  I believe that when we are together at home and in certain environments... we  are open and out.  but.... there are times when we have to be extremely careful with each other in front of her family and high school friends.  I don't like the feeling of living in the closet so to speak because i come from a community the is soooooo gay friendly.  So, needless to say our solution is for me to head back home and get settled back into my gay loving community and send for her later.....maybe that is what you will need to do.... consideer relocating to area that is totally gay friendly and live your life to the fullest being exactly who you are....best of luck....

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In the question I asked, can you be in the closet but yet out.? It's not me, my partner . It's like they are ashamed of who they are. I'm very confused and hurt all in one. Everyone knows about us and I don't get it. I've even mentioned it and got nothing. Is there something I'm not seeing?

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Hi Newtrose,
She sounds "out" but untested. My guess would be that you are either more "out" than her previous lovers or that you ask her to be out in ways she has not dealt wtih before. Coming out has many levels and even those of us who feel we are out still encounter situations where we would simply rather not say one way or another. I am very out but I resent when the woman accros the street introduces me as her gay neighbor. I want to be the judge of how dangerous or appropriate a situations might be. My best advice would be to talk with her about what specifically triggers her and what she feels is safe. At least then you will have something concrete to work on.

Our society creates a great deal of shame around sexuality in general. It could be that the whole topic of sexuality is one she has trouble with and the gay references really push those buttons. You can be heterosexual without it being a direct reference to having sex, in fact most people aren't rude enough around heterosexuals to go directly to a sexual refernce. They stick to whether you love your partner or not. Unfortunately saying that you are gay is equated by many in society with specific sexual acts rather than the emotional counterpart. If you have any sexual guilt at all, this kind of public discussion can trigger feelings of shame.

Last edited by Sealynx (2010-11-27 10:05:39)

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It's really hard. I am very respectful to other people. I don't put it all out there for people to see. But if asked I'd answer, yes. But my partner is the same way to a point. She is embarrassed over things I get or do for her. She doesn't acknowledge to her family or friends what I do for her. They think I'm just here and do nothing. It's very hurtful.

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I can understand and sometimes you need to express your feelings should be a highly valued person and never feel bad for who you are!!!  I had a girlfriend who tried to avoid that as well and then put me down for being happy-go-ucky, romantic and loving.  She looked past my good points and critized my so-called issues.  It is ok to express your feelings.   Remember there are others who root you on.

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Newtrose,
We all have our individual ways of showing love and it is painful when they aren't acknowledged. I don't know how long you two have been together but I don't think you should change who you are. I agree with Daydreamer, don't let anyone make you feel bad for being you. My take on that is that the other person needs you to be you....even if they don't much like it. It could be that this relationship is not for you. The only way I'd give different advice is if you have been giving her things to try and make the relationship better. That almost never works. You are enough, if not for her, for someone more deserving.

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Yes, all you can be is yourself and sometimes doors open up in relationships and others close and things can be very surprising and I need that same encouragement as well!!!!!  There are blessing all around us and all the more inside us!!!!!!!  Blessings!!!!!!

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I wish to say thank you for giving me advice. I will say that they did change me over the coarse of 9 years. But now I'm slowly going back to myself. I commented on, "you know you fell in love with that person". Like I said, I like me, for me. It's just hard to understand the afraid of a partnership part. EVERYONE knows and no one really cares. But yet its like this. We are separated for now and I still try to get it thru, you CAN be yourself. If you love and care about someone your not going to act or show like your ashamed of them.

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i have had a relationship for 2 years and i wanted to come out but my girlfriends doesn't....at the end it didn't worked anymore and it ended...to bad...but we were having a relationship that couldn't be a real relationship...now i'm hoping to find someone who doesn't want to hide it...

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Shanna, it would be nice to have someone that loves and cares about you, without trying to change you. I would love to have a ring on my left hand someday but I see that will never happen. It seems my life choices have been a waste. I just don't get it. If you truly love someone, your not going to treat them like a social friend around people. I'm sorry its just not right.

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Newtrose,
Some people show us what we want and some teach us what we don't want. You now know what you don't want. The lesbian world is unfortunately small but the internet has made it a better place. Check out the Curve Magazine Personals. They have tons of people on there.(http://curvepersonals.com/) Start making some new friends, pen pals if nothing else.