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General Discussion for anyone struggling to come out.

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So, I guess I'll be the first to post....

I'm 22 years old, live in Eastern Canada, and I am a lesbian. However, no one in my family knows. Most of my close friends know, but I'm absolutely terrified to tell my family.
I don't know what to do or how to tell them. I hate living this double life and I'm completely sick and tired of spinnig a web of lies so that I'm not found out. I've thought about telling my family that I'm a lesbian, but every time I try to think of the easiest way to break it to them, I clam up and close myself off.
I don't really know if I'm making any sense here at all, but any feedback/suggestions are welcomed
I'm really at my wits end......

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i'm 20, now live in florida going to college and i'm bisexual. i've just come to understand myself and realize that it's okay. absolutely no one knows, except for whoever reads this. i finally got the courage to join my school's gsa after 2 years i've been here, chely has inspired me soo much. i feel so comfortable there and it's really helping me feel better about myself. i've lived with my dad since i was little but i feel like if i come out, he will disown me. he's always saying ew she's a lesbian or ew he's gay, and things like that just makes me hide even more. i just don't know what i should do. any advice?

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My advice to you would be to come out when you have the strength too. But failing that, i came out in a letter to my parents. It was easier than seeing there faces as I revealed who i am. I was 21 years old and scared of family reacting badly. Luckily for me my parents were great. Took my older brother a little longer but hes great now.

So even if they react badly or shocked at first, dont get down hearted, things will come right in the end and at least your being honest with them.

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I could never come out where I live,I would not have a job and I would lose everything house ,car .Really sad and to all you ppl that say "just do it"Don't know what your talking about I would have nothing to eat with no job.

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I understand your fears, catcat. I have been turned down for housing, seen friends lose jobs, be kicked out by their parents, shunned by family and friends. I myself am not out to my own family, because I don't want to be disowned. The sad truth is, it isn't safe for everyone to come out. I pray that someday that will change, but until it does, you have to keep yourself safe. Maybe someday you might be able to find another job or move somewhere that is more accepting, and know the freedom that comes from just being yourself. Until then I will be praying for you and others in similar situations.

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Taeleyn wrote:

I understand your fears, catcat. I have been turned down for housing, seen friends lose jobs, be kicked out by their parents, shunned by family and friends. I myself am not out to my own family, because I don't want to be disowned. The sad truth is, it isn't safe for everyone to come out. I pray that someday that will change, but until it does, you have to keep yourself safe. Maybe someday you might be able to find another job or move somewhere that is more accepting, and know the freedom that comes from just being yourself. Until then I will be praying for you and others in similar situations.

Thank you for your kind words.it helps to know that there is some one who has to hide "LIKE ME"

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catcat77, no one should dictate to anyone when is the safe time for coming out. I agree with Taeleyn in that it is not safe for everyone to just come out. It does depend on where you live. If I lived, for instance, in the middle-east, I would  be under the closet, certainly not out and proud because they execute people for homosexuality in that part of the world . So safety  and your personal well being should be you first priority.

I believe coming out is more  about being authentic and true to yourself then who we choose to include in that truth. If you are comfortable with who you are, that is the central and core issue. Have you "come out" to yourself? Are you happy with, and accepting of, who you are? I do not believe it is necessary to tell everyone everything about our personal lives.

Years ago, when I was in my 20's, most gay people lived and worked in what was known as "the glass closet". We  were all out within the gay community, socialized at gay clubs, were even out to our straight friends and  families but NEVER at work. Back in the 70's, there were no protections in the workplace with regards to sexual orientation. Gradually that has changed. Today, at least in most states in the US, sexual orientation is protected under labor laws and you can not be fired simply because of your sexual orientation. Laws have not always been on our side and even today sexual orientation can still be used as a means of discrimination throughout the US with regards to numerous things most people take for granted like being a foster parent, adoption, marriage, home ownership, hospital visitation and military service.

Coming out remains a very personal and individual issue and it is different for everyone.

made_in_canada I understand your struggle. Do you still live at home? Are you in a position to support yourself independently of your parents if you had to move from their home? Safety and self preservation should always be first on your list of priorities before you consider any public pronouncement. I think the one thing you should ask yourself is what has your relationship with your parents been throughout your life. If you have had and continue to have a close supportive relationship with them, they might get upset after you tell them but in a short time they will realize you are the same child they have loved and supported their entire life.

Do you have a PFLAG group in your town? Maybe you could attend one of their meeting and talk to other parents. Perhaps one of them is acquainted with your parents. They might be able to give you insight into how your own parents might digest the news.

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@ Made_In_Canada, I'm also 22 and live in eastern Canada, I know what its like live two lives and trying to keep them seperate. All the lies and trying to keep track of which ones you told and to who. Its exhausting isn't it? I don't really have any advice for you because i'm only slowly coming out myself, but if you need to talk or anything I'm here! 

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susanjane wrote:

catcat77, no one should dictate to anyone when is the safe time for coming out. I agree with Taeleyn in that it is not safe for everyone to just come out. It does depend on where you live. If I lived, for instance, in the middle-east, I would  be under the closet, certainly not out and proud because they execute people for homosexuality in that part of the world . So safety  and your personal well being should be you first priority.

I believe coming out is more  about being authentic and true to yourself then who we choose to include in that truth. If you are comfortable with who you are, that is the central and core issue. Have you "come out" to yourself? Are you happy with, and accepting of, who you are? I do not believe it is necessary to tell everyone everything about our personal lives.

Years ago, when I was in my 20's, most gay people lived and worked in what was known as "the glass closet". We  were all out within the gay community, socialized at gay clubs, were even out to our straight friends and  families but NEVER at work. Back in the 70's, there were no protections in the workplace with regards to sexual orientation. Gradually that has changed. Today, at least in most states in the US, sexual orientation is protected under labor laws and you can not be fired simply because of your sexual orientation. Laws have not always been on our side and even today sexual orientation can still be used as a means of discrimination throughout the US with regards to numerous things most people take for granted like being a foster parent, adoption, marriage, home ownership, hospital visitation and military service.

Coming out remains a very personal and individual issue and it is different for everyone.

made_in_canada I understand your struggle. Do you still live at home? Are you in a position to support yourself independently of your parents if you had to move from their home? Safety and self preservation should always be first on your list of priorities before you consider any public pronouncement. I think the one thing you should ask yourself is what has your relationship with your parents been throughout your life. If you have had and continue to have a close supportive relationship with them, they might get upset after you tell them but in a short time they will realize you are the same child they have loved and supported their entire life.

Do you have a PFLAG group in your town? Maybe you could attend one of their meeting and talk to other parents. Perhaps one of them is acquainted with your parents. They might be able to give you insight into how your own parents might digest the news.

Thanks for all the understanding ,I was sure posters would say "Forget about what ppl say and come on out "I just can not do that yet.Glad for the support here.

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The last two and a half years of my life I have had a very special person come into my life. She is a beautiful woman and for most of the two yrs of our friendship she was dating and in love with her girlfriend. I at the time was in a rocky 3 yr relationship with a guy (yes it would be lying to call him a "man"). Very few people knew of mine and my friend's mutual attraction, simply for the fear of losing the security of our relationships. Well times got tougher and things changed in our separate relationships and with our own friendship and we both made the difficult decision at that time to let our separate relationships go. My relationship with my ex-boyfriend ended mainly because of his newly acquired prescription drug and alcohol abuse and growing violent anger.  And her relationship ended mainly of her girlfriend’s wishes to move to another town nearly 3hrs away in which my friend did not want to do. In the difficult times following my break up my friend was there for me like no one else was. She was my rock even at that point. A few weeks passed after both break ups and it was clear to both of us we wanted more from each other than just friendship. Some people questioned was it a rebound but from my honest point of view that would be the furthest from the truth. I remember the first day I saw her, I was instantly interested and wanted to know more about her. I noticed her rainbow bracelet she was wearing and this was the first openly gay women I would see or know on a regular basis (I’ve had a few gay guy friends in the past). I was excited! I had always found women attractive and always wanted to sexually be with another female so seeing her and knowing I would spend the next 2 yrs with her (we were in nursing school together) made the thought of “us” come to mind a lot earlier than it probably should have! Anyways, after graduation and our relationships ended we gave things a try between the two of us. Surprisingly, things at first were very rocky. I’m not sure if it was the whole “new relationship” thing, getting over the old one or even slightly wanting the chance to be single or even a mixture of all three. We got past all of that and now are now 5 months into our beautiful relationship and I personally could not imagine being any happier! As far as family goes…. Well that’s a much less glorious story! Her entire family and friends know she is gay (and not everyone agrees, but they “deal with it” as best as they know how). As for my friends, most of them know of my new relationship and support and love me! My family on the other hand, well… they don’t know! My mom is only family member who knows of my current relationship and that is because my girlfriend’s mom told my mom (her mother wasn’t aware mine didn’t know about our relationship – yes, one could imagine the look on my mom’s face when she found out and a similar expression on my face once she confronted me about it!) Since then my mom has explained she is not happy about it but if that’s what I choose she will love me and wants to be a part of my life so she will accept it. But sometimes her comments are less than parallel to what she said! My father and sister will be the biggest hurdle in this “coming out adventure”. I cannot even think of where to start or when to tell them! Ugh it makes me nervous and intimidated just thinking about it! But I want to so desperately! I want them to know who I am and who I love! I dated outside my race a few yrs ago and both my dad and sister voiced their disproval every chance they had and threatened to not be a part of my life if I decided to marry or have children with this man. Much like Chely Wright, I long for my dad’s acceptance probably more than from anyone else on this earth.  I currently live with my mother until my girlfriend and I move in together late next month or early January. When I bought Chely Wright’s book, Like Me, I read it every night in my bed with the door closed and had to hide it in my nightstand drawer when I was finished my daily readings in fear of the argument it would cause. Soon there will be the time to tell my entire family of my new love and yes, I’ll admit, I’m terrified!  Originally I told myself I would only tell my family once I decided she was worth upsetting them. I know that sounds bad but it’s honest! Well it’s been 5 months of mostly ups and even a few downs but she is my best friend and my love. And she’s worth it!   

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meep00822 wrote:

I’ll admit, I’m terrified!  Originally I told myself I would only tell my family once I decided she was worth upsetting them. I know that sounds bad but it’s honest! Well it’s been 5 months of mostly ups and even a few downs but she is my best friend and my love. And she’s worth it!   

Totally understand and agree with the idea of only upsetting the family once you decided she was worth the upset. That's exactly what I did. Maybe not the best advice for everyone, but worked for me. Until I was happy in a relationship with the person I knew was the one, I let things slide, didn't seem worth the constant fights. Once I knew she was the one, the gloves came off. We've been together 7.5 yrs now and things are going very smoothly with our respective families.

"Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win, by fearing to attempt."-William Shakespeare

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I've recently came out at work with trepidation since I'm a high school teacher, but I had basically reached an impasse in life that made it impossible for me to continue to try to hide my sexuality. It was an accumulation of things, but primarily the recent teen suicides and the loss of the love of my life earlier this year.

I came out to my family when I was 24,which was 25 yrs ago. I had lived under the pretense that I was out with exception to work. I would never come out at work because I would lose my job, one I loved and valued almost above all else. Teaching is all I have ever wanted to do so I compromised my life. I cannot tell you how many times I ran and dodged in Walmart while shopping with my partner because I saw a parent, teacher, or student. That is not being out in ones private life as I had so easily convinced myself. The only place I was really out was at a gay bar, at home, or with  my family and gay friends; places where I felt protected.


So last October I started the process of coming out at school. I have had personal conversations up to now with 58 teachers and or administrators at my school and one parent. I forgot to mention that I live in the Heartland of America's Bible Belt, The Buckle, they say. I have had only one and half negative response, which shocks, surprises, and baffles me. I simply cannot beleive it, but it is true. I have worked with these people for 8 yrs. They know me professionaly and have a certain amount of respect for me.

I don't know what will happen to me professionaly as a result of my coming out, but I reconciled that before I told the first person. I love my job, but I refuse to live a half life for it any more. Additionally, I want to be available to LGBT kids in need of a teacher that understands, been there done that so to speak. I also want to be a part of change in education in terms of the LGBT community.

Coming out is scary, and I would not recommend it to anyone who is not ready to do it. This is a personal decision that must be made while being fully aware of possible negative consequences. As for myself, I feel liberated and free. It was the right decision for me with no regrets.

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Well I'm a 44 year old woman who has know that I was gay at about 9 years old.  I kept it a secret until
the age of 37, told my mom, brother and sister on my birthday. I thought everything was going to be ok,
but it wasn't. I have been in counseling since the age of 29 and have been on many different meds for
depression and still am.  I know I'm gay but I have not been able to accept it yet, I'm so afraid that people
will find out so I keep pushing everyone away, I just hide out in my house. I'm really like 2 different people,
The work girl and the gay girl thats hiding.  I'm so afraid of everything and everyone, its to the point that I'm
sick all the time not to mention dealing with the drepression.  I don't know what to do anymore to be honest.
The only thing I know for sure is I can't keep living like this, its like holding your breath for a very long time.
So anyone with some ideas for me to get through this please let me know.

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@vetabordeaux, thank you for sharing your story.  I live in the bible belt too, and I just recently graduated nursing school and am now working in a small community hospital.  I haven't came out at work because the people there seem to be so closed minded, and with the few job opportunities where I live, I can't risk losing my job right now.  I am out also to everyone else, and I just hope that one day that can spill over into my work life also.  I don't like hiding, but I love my job and taking care of people.  So thank you for your encouraging story, and I hope to have a similar one soon!  Peace, Sharon

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THIS IS AMBER33

  I HAD A HARD TIME COMING OUT MYSELF. BEFORE I COULD COME OUT, I HAD TO COME OUT TO MYSELF. I HAD TO ACCEPT WHO I AM. IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO DO THAT. ONCE I DID, I WAS STILL NERVOUS ABOUT IT. BUT ONCE I STARTED TELLING PEOPLE, I WAS SURPRISED HOW THEY TOOK IT. THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT, BUT THEY LOVE ME ENOUGH TO RESPECT IT AND ME. I DON'T GET INTO THE RELIGIOUS ASPECTS OF IT BECAUSE THAT WOULD CAUSE TO MANY PROBLEMS.

  I THINK MAYBE YOU SHOULD PICK AND CHOOSE WHO YOU TELL. IF IT'S SOMEONE YOU TRULY BELIEVE WILL BE FINE WITH IT AND WILL ACCEPT IT AND LOVE YOU, THEN THAT'S THE FIRST PERSON TO TELL. ONCE YOU TELL THAT PERSON, THEN IT MIGHT GET A LITTLE EASIER TO TELL MORE PEOPLE. BUT WHO YOU TELL IS UP TO YOU. IF YOU FEEL NOT EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW, THEN DON'T TELL EVERYONE. IT MAY CAUSE YOU MORE PAIN THAN YOU REALLY WANT OR NEED.


WELL, GOTTA RUN.

LATER

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I’m quite a bit older than most of you - 50, and certainly understand your fears.  I came out to ALL when I was about 27 YO.  I never flaunted it, because of working in a professional environment, it was too much of a risk, but my family and friends knew.
I'm willing to bet the family already suspects and is just waiting for you to confirm their suspicion.
Remember you need to live YOUR life for YOU - not for your parents or family - even if it's a letdown.

Suggestion:  You are so young, and rather than just coming out and saying
"oh, I’m a lesbian" you may want to gradually work up to it by telling them how special this person is to you, or how Intrigued you are with them, etc.   Let them know you have very strong feelings for the person, maybe to your surprise! …. and to YOU it feels "right" and it's who you are.

If and when questioned about it, they need to know you cannot help your feelings, but this is who you are.  It really is not as taboo or whispered about today like it was 20-30 years ago.  Your parents and family members MIGHT be disappointed (if they don't already know), but if they truly love you they will accept you and support you for who you are and let you live YOUR life and only want happiness for you.  Do expect the “oh, God where did I go wrong lecture – parents like to do 1st"…but they will get over it.  The more educated they are about Gays and lesbians, the more they will realize “they” did not do this to you!  Some people STILL equate being Gay to Sex only….it’s not all about sex, it’s about love, companionship, friendship, and you are comfortable with it, because this is who YOU are and you are still the same person they know and love!
Just my thought!    Be brave and good luck.  It will be a HUGE burden off your shoulders.

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I'm Amber

It is difficult to come out altogether. Our society has come a long way in accepting homosexuality, but we also still have a long way to go. We are humans made in GOD's image. The religious zealots will tell you that it's in the BIBLE. It is, but it's not correct. I can guarantee you that there were homosexuals in GOD's time. They would just never come out because they would've been stoned to death. Thank goodnes that we don't do that now.

I had a hard time accepting myself as being gay. For a long time, i just considered myself asexual. I didn't want to label myself one way or the other. But as I got older, I cam to realize that I can't be happy living for others, I have to be true and honest with myself. I have to live for myself. The funny thing is, some of my family realized I was gay before I truly did. How's that for Irony?

We are all unique! We can't and shouldn't let anyone take that from us. The only reason anyone has a problem with it is because they don't understand how someone can be in love with someone of the same sex. If they would take the time to understand, maybe their attitudes would change. But we have a long way to go before that happens.

Gotta run

TTY tmrw

Amber signing off